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Re: JD E110 eating deck belts

Postby 38racing » Mon May 27, 2024 7:15 am

So with the 102 belt, even though seems to fit the engagement arm is not moving enough to disengage the brakes, even though pads are probably worn to half. Looks likes using long belt is only way brakes can disengage and as discussed much earlier maybe I'll have to do something to move the currently stationary mounting point for the engagement cable.
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Re: JD E110 eating deck belts

Postby 38racing » Mon May 27, 2024 12:58 pm

was tallking to my auto mechanic. He had same problem with his parents deere. Recalls that he had to bend the belt guides at the engine pulley right back against the pulley. Not sure if he fiddled with brakes too.
another thought is that if I move the engagement mounting bracket to increase engaement arm movement then belt would be slightly less loose when disengaged?
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Re: JD E110 eating deck belts

Postby 38racing » Wed May 29, 2024 7:58 pm

Put new belt on. Messed up on the guide pin setup on engine pulley. Hard to remove as sits in notches on a plate ahead of steering sector. One side angled in, other was straight. Made wrong decision and straightthe angled side. Heck of time getting it back on. Succeeded but then realized if both sides angled it then removal and installation would maybe be easier and pins would be closer to pulley. Can't get it off lol. Had to stop for supper and now back is stiff. Going to jig some blocks so I can bend i place with c clamp. Ordered the adjustable cable anchor from local husqvarna dealer.
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Re: JD E110 eating deck belts

Postby 38racing » Wed May 29, 2024 9:29 pm

So I just found a picture of the guide pin . For doe reason deere calls it a drive belt guide but it's clearly guiding the deck belt. It is straight on one side and angled on the other, pretty much as it was when I took it off. So another avenue to fixing it has evaporated.
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Re: JD E110 eating deck belts

Postby KE4AVB » Thu May 30, 2024 5:40 am

You got me lost as the part you referring to. Can you post more info like an image of where it is located on the IPL?
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Re: JD E110 eating deck belts

Postby 38racing » Sat Jun 08, 2024 9:41 pm

KE4AVB wrote:You got me lost as the part you referring to. Can you post more info like an image of where it is located on the IPL?

been busy so haven't uploaded part picture but it's just the u shaped belt guide around the engine pulley.
actuallyy you might see here as part 18
https://www.weingartz.com/assembly-diag ... 452-419201

With some difficulty I removed it and it was funny. One side was straight and one angled in. So I go ahead and straighten the angle side which actually complicated re-install. So research and as per ipl one side is angled and one straight. Ignoring that I angled both in. But I don't think that is the problem.
With the JD length belt installed I was testing with deck level where he likely sets it, maybe he goes even lower. Well I did not like the noise I was hearing and vibration I was sensing. I lifted deck a couple positions and noise and vibration were gone. When I dropped it off I told his wife to tell him not to change the deck level. My theory is that lowering deck results in shifting and the engagement pulley backs off , loosening the belt and maybe engaging the brakes. I suspect that it also allows the belt to bounce enough on the spindle pulleys to allow the belt to cut those grooves in the the plastic covers. I've ordered the HQ adjustable engagement anchor from a local dealer that I can have the belt tighter at full engagement. Hopefully I can get him to cut higher. My test cut with the noise was way too short in my opinion. In hindsight I should have looked closer at what height changes were actually doing but he was anxious to get it back and I had lost a couple days with a stiff back.
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Re: JD E110 eating deck belts

Postby 38racing » Mon Jun 24, 2024 9:22 pm

Well he's back. Another chewed up belt. Said it kept coming off engine pulley when he disengaged. Apparently he idles down before disengaging. Don't know if that affects anything. So thistime he couldn't get belt back on. Its off engine pulley and right spindle pulley. Quick looked and left brake was twisted rearward and probably did the belt in. Will have to drop deck and see what's going on there. Still waiting for hq dealer to call abour anchor. Maybe I was to call them. She said it was i stock at the warehouse.
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Re: JD E110 eating deck belts

Postby bgsengine » Tue Jun 25, 2024 6:40 am

You may need to look into the deck mounting - draft arms, pins, etc to make sure it allows deck to sit & cut level and not bounce around. I recall one I had trouble with that was doing the same thing - everything looked great but it kept tossing belt and bending guides, etc. Finally I removed the blades from deck and had my dad sit in tractor and operate PTO and raise/lower deck while I tried to shift things around, then I realized that it was the worn-out deck mounting (draft arms holes worn oblong, mounting pins, which were replaceable, had slots worn into them from draft arms, and so on) after getting customer approval on estimate (which was expensive - I think the guy had more money than brains.. That or he was too emotionally invested in the color & logo) I replaced all the deck mounting stuff and adjusted deck level, cleaned & lubricated or replaced every single worn out pivot bushing on the deck (or the component it pivoted on) and got a new belt guide, which I had thought was bent out of shape , but new one was the same shape as old one... figured out how it mounts (belt loops up and over the outer prongs and inside edge of belt just clears the inner bracket, if I recall right) but once we threw all that moolah into it, he ran that tractor for the next 4 to 5 years with no trouble other than having me do annual maintenance. (until he dropped dead of a heart attack or something.. don't know what heirs did with the machine after, but I figure it probably went on some junk pile - the deck was nearly rotted out entirely and rest of machine looked totally roached)

Long story short, I think I may have had a similar tractor & problem, solved by getting creative as to how to observe the machine in operation safely and *see* what was happening.
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