Kohler Confident

[madmantrapper]

Someone tell me something about this engine please. How does it compare to the Command and Courage? I am looking for a ZTR that is affordable for home use. Everything I own has a Command engine and I am satisfied with it. A new ZTR my son is looking at has a Confident which I know nothing about. Some of the reviews I looked at say it is a very low end commercial, others say it is a residential. What do the Pros say?

[KE4AVB]

Personally I haven't seen one yet but it does have a 2 year commercial use warranty vs the Command Pro 2-3 year commercial use warranty(depending series). Either way it is a lot better warranty compared the Courage and the 7000 series which are 90 days commercial use.

[Mr Mower Man]

Actually, starting back in November '17, Kohler retroactively made all their twin cylinder engines with a 3-year consumer and commercial warranty (except the Courage, which hasn't been in production for a few years anyway). The Confidant engine seems pretty solid to me. I did have to perform warranty repair on one because the plastic cam gear was oversized, causing a whine while the engine was running. Don't quote me on this, but I'm not sure there's a whole lot of difference between the 7000 series and the Confidant series, except for air filtration. I'd trust both of them, but then again, I like Kohler engines. The only general problem I'm aware of with the 7000 series (and maybe the Confidant too), is some oil leakage around the valve covers. I did not like the Courage engine, but the new 7000 series is NOT a Courage with a different label. It's a completely redesigned engine. And the Confidant was created to be used in light commercial applications. The Command is still their top end commercial line.

[madmantrapper]

Thanks guys, I think I will stick with the command, proven reliability.

[madmantrapper]

How about the Kohler 7000 vs the Kawasaki FR?

[Luffydog]

Seems all the Kohler's look alike these days with different names on them with different air filters and shrouds until u get to bigger commercial engines then things change a bit. I don't like the Kohler's engine not a fan especially when it comes down to something like internal damage they will either send a long or short block to replace instead of bucking up and sending an engine. They seems like they are failing out with little hrs on them. Power kohler but with troubles early and louder. Quiet and little less power with some later issues with and pretty good stand behind the engine and good maintenance practice use good oil and filter and air filter then Might have some small issues along the way but doesn't seem to be as often as the kohler. Just my opinion Kawasaki is the way to go for home lite or commercial use. I think I would rather have a Briggs than a kohler but just me but each has their own opinion and all has or will have issues in time.