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Stihl Recoil Starter Fitment

Postby davbell25413 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:40 pm

Will the recoil starter assembly on a 034, 036, 044, and 046 interchange with one another? Part numbers are different.

034/036 - 1125 080 2105
044/046 - 1128 080 2104

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271132664824?ss ... 1423.l2649
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Re: Stihl Recoil Starter Fitment

Postby Mek-a-nik » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:39 am

I'm not familar, but I think you answered your own question.
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Re: Stihl Recoil Starter Fitment

Postby bgsengine » Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:40 am

Agree. Generally when part numbers are different, so are the parts. Some of them might even bolt up, but might do weird things like cause a no-start .. or make the engine run backwards.. :evil: :shock: :bricks: (yeah, right.. LOL!)
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Re: Stihl Recoil Starter Fitment

Postby davbell25413 » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:05 am

Im just puzzled the way the ebay seller has it listed that they interchange.
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Re: Stihl Recoil Starter Fitment

Postby NevadaWalrus » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:18 am

Seller lists them for 044, 046, 440 and 460, which is correct. I see no mention by seller about the 034 or 036, use on the 034-036 models are just wishful hoping on your part. Understood, those prices are probably much less then through regular channels.

044 and 046 are basically the same with the 046 having more compression and maybe a few more CC's. MS 440 and 460 are identical, just more recent production of 044 and 046. In Germany MS means motor saw and the newer designation was to bring their entire line up to similar labeling world wide.
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Re: Stihl Recoil Starter Fitment

Postby davbell25413 » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:54 am

NevadaWalrus wrote:Seller lists them for 044, 046, 440 and 460, which is correct. I see no mention by seller about the 034 or 036, use on the 034-036 models are just wishful hoping on your part. Understood, those prices are probably much less then through regular channels.

044 and 046 are basically the same with the 046 having more compression and maybe a few more CC's. MS 440 and 460 are identical, just more recent production of 044 and 046. In Germany MS means motor saw and the newer designation was to bring their entire line up to similar labeling world wide.


The one part number on the ad is a 034/036 part number. 1125 080 2105
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Re: Stihl Recoil Starter Fitment

Postby bgsengine » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:55 am

davbell25413 wrote:
NevadaWalrus wrote:Seller lists them for 044, 046, 440 and 460, which is correct. I see no mention by seller about the 034 or 036, use on the 034-036 models are just wishful hoping on your part. Understood, those prices are probably much less then through regular channels.

044 and 046 are basically the same with the 046 having more compression and maybe a few more CC's. MS 440 and 460 are identical, just more recent production of 044 and 046. In Germany MS means motor saw and the newer designation was to bring their entire line up to similar labeling world wide.


The one part number on the ad is a 034/036 part number. 1125 080 2105


Then they screwed up. That's what the "ask seller a question" is for - ask THEM, not us, we don't have the starter in hand, we didn't make the listing, how are *we* supposed to know?

The PICTURE is correct to the titled part number - the only error is in the "replaces" numbers, and as that starter is a Stens Aftermarket , they very likely are using the Stens cross reference,without even having a clue about their product. There are an awful lot of sellers on eBay that 1) Do not stock all the product that they have listed (Judging from their feedback, it shows - a lot of "Slow to ship, Took a month before they shipped", etc. - proves they didnt have it in stock, tried to order in and it was backordered..) and 2) They have accounts with aftermarket suppliers like Stens and simply list the product without knowing the first thing about the parts, what they fit, or even what they are, in some cases. They often "borrow" copyrighted images from other websites, use stock photos, and the like..

So... Buyer Beware.. if something "Stinks" like that listing, then ask seller a question, and then ask someone you KNOW that knows.

The 2 parts are different (Although it appears either one will bolt up, not so sure if they work correctly , but they ARE different parts.)
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Re: Stihl Recoil Starter Fitment

Postby davbell25413 » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:27 am

I been asking the seller and they dont know either. They said have to ask the distributor. Thanks for help
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Re: Stihl Recoil Starter Fitment

Postby bgsengine » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:36 am

davbell25413 wrote:I been asking the seller and they dont know either. They said have to ask the distributor. Thanks for help

Ask a Stihl DEALER .. I can't tell you how many times we have had customer call in because a part we had listed to fit a certain model, or to replace an old part number did not match up with what the *manufacturer's own* customer service desk told them.

Case in point, Briggs new spark plugs EPA compliant 799876 (RJ2YLE) We knew they had been superseded by 591868 (RJ19LMC) and that was the parts we were getting shipped by the distributor..
Customer called Briggs, CSR at Briggs told the customer to NOT replace it with any other part or part number because 799876 was th eonly correct one, then said they would ship the customer one.. The customer got the very same 591868 (RJ19LMC) spark plug we had listed as the replacement for that old number.. and paid about twice as much as they would have had they ordered from us (because of shipping)

Just goes to show, sometimes even the FACTORY's CSR's have no clue about the product.. while DEALERS are on the front lines, and have *FIRSTHAND* knowledge of what is going on. A Stihl Dealer worth their salt should probably be able to answer that question with no trouble.. the fact that the seller does not know, I would not buy *anything* from them.. regardless of the price.. because you never know what you might get.
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Re: Stihl Recoil Starter Fitment

Postby KE4AVB » Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:30 pm

There you go. I had similar problem with Briggs on Nikki carburetor kit. It had the wrong float bowl gasket in the kit. All I was wanting was the correct part number for the other gasket. Briggs could even give me that one. I finally find my number via googling Nikki bowl gasket. Since that time I keep an extra gasket of each version so I don't take extra week just to get correct gasket.

For Stihl parts I usually end up carrying the equipment with to the local dealer to make I get the correct parts. I had one chainsaw that had three different throttle cables available and it took the dealer nearly 30 minutes to run down the correct number and then he had to order it as it was the least used version.
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