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Head bolts, anti-seizing compound, and torque values

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Re: Head bolts, anti-seizing compound, and torque values

Postby KE4AVB » Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:10 am

Fulltilt wrote:Lock washers on head bolts??? Nope. Not today. Never heard of anyone using lock washers on a head bolt, never.
Most head bolts have a slight "washer/flange" type head on them, not being an engineer, I would assume to spread the clamping load a bit. So, if you use a lockwasher, it seems it would defeat the purpose of the head bolt design. I've never seen a lock washer that is as wide as a head bolt flange.

Then you never worked on the Tecumseh that had Belleville washers on the head bolts then. I had used lock washer as I didn't have any of Belleville washers of the correct size on hand and they fairly expensive to just order a few; unless, I ordering other fasteners at the time.
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Re: Head bolts, anti-seizing compound, and torque values

Postby Fulltilt » Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:34 pm

KE4AVB wrote:
Fulltilt wrote:Lock washers on head bolts??? Nope. Not today. Never heard of anyone using lock washers on a head bolt, never.
Most head bolts have a slight "washer/flange" type head on them, not being an engineer, I would assume to spread the clamping load a bit. So, if you use a lockwasher, it seems it would defeat the purpose of the head bolt design. I've never seen a lock washer that is as wide as a head bolt flange.

Then you never worked on the Tecumseh that had Belleville washers on the head bolts then. I had used lock washer as I didn't have any of Belleville washers of the correct size on hand and they fairly expensive to just order a few; unless, I ordering other fasteners at the time.


Lockwashers...belleville washers...not the same animal.
Nope, never have. Every Tecumseh I've worked on that required belleville washers also had/required flat washers under the belleville washers.
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Re: Head bolts, anti-seizing compound, and torque values

Postby creia » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:59 pm

Thank you to everyone that replied. It was most appreciated, and you have given me direction. My son and I will continue to do as we have always done- clean the bolt threads and the thread holes in the block real good and install and torque them dry. This has worked for us so far (10 years) w/o any problems.
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Re: Head bolts, anti-seizing compound, and torque values

Postby wristpin » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:05 pm

If you check the headbolts on just about any L head briggs , you will generally find the two or three bolts around the exhaust valve area are noticeably less tight than the others. ( as was mentioned) I wouldn't call them "loose" per se, but they usually need to be snugged up. Every one I've ever fingerprinted needed tightening.


Never found that - they are often the ones that I find to be seized!
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Re: Head bolts, anti-seizing compound, and torque values

Postby Matt » Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:55 pm

There is absolutely a different torque setting between dry and wet(lubed) threads, as you know. I dont have any magic formula that i can provide or any rule of thumb, but using anything on the threads and the required torque from the manufacturer will result in overtightening and thread/fastener or part failure.
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