Another Troy Bilt tiller

[Gerry]

Got an old TB tiller horse in the engine is a Briggs 192432 Type 0193-01 Code 970217YD. The only other number I can find is on the frame it is Serial: O 0948598. I dont think the is the correct cowling as when I look at the IPL its shows the carb as the Briggs LMT. The carb on this one is the old 2 piece flow jet like on the old model 195432's. I would like to find the correct model number so I can try to find OEM cables and etc. The owner really want to keep it OEM if possible.

Thanks

Gerry

[KE4AVB]

First your Horse serial doesn't start with a "O" instead it is a Zero. Since ARI parts system is currently down I have a question that you might be able to answer. On this particular is the engine PTO shaft 3/4" or 1"? I hoping it 1" . I just spent three hours this morning getting the two king pins out because the customer is wanting me to put on a HF engine that he brought in with the tiller. It took a while to those ears hot enough to where I could drive the pins out. In the process I destroy a new pin punch.

As in your case the engine shroud here is definitely wrong as it is off a vertical engine at your is off a horizontal engine.

https://www.jackssmallengines.com/jacks-parts-lookup/manufacturer/troy-bilt/legacy/tillers/horse/horse-opc-7-8hp-s-n-00940750-up

[RoyM]

Somebody has definitely changed the blower housing, your engine is a much older version.

[bgsengine]

First your Horse serial doesn't start with a "O" instead it is a Zero. Since ARI parts system is currently down I have a question that you might be able to answer. On this particular is the engine PTO shaft 3/4" or 1"? I hoping it 1" . I just spent three hours this morning getting the two king pins out because the customer is wanting me to put on a HF engine that he brought in with the tiller. It took a while to those ears hot enough to where I could drive the pins out. In the process I destroy a new pin punch.

1) Troy Bilt horse should all be 3/4 shaft I believe. (otherwise they would need 2 different drive pulley part numbers each time they changed the pulley design) 2) the king pins you refer to , did you know they are 3/8-16 threaded on the tops (often filled with crud or plugged with plastic plugs) you can run a short bolt into there and giving it some torque, can often break loose rusted-in kingpins enough to make it easier to drive them through (and use the bolt heads to pound on so you don't mushroom the pins)

[KE4AVB]

That why I asked as I do have PNs for two different pulleys. One is NLA which I have and the other is over $100. Just want verify the size used on Gerry's unit as it has the other PN list in the IPL before I order the king pins.

As for the king pins I was unable break them loose using the bolt method; hence, the heat, a 5/16 pin driver and a three pound sedge. Even with the heat and the hammer they very hard to get out. They had been in there over 40 yrs. They are heavily pitted too. I pretty well destroyed my pin driver.

Why in the Heck don't they use a little anti seize at MTD. I having to design and make a puller for PTO clutches because they won't use the anti seize compound. Unable to find a puller that will work that has a 8-1/2 spread. Everything I tried just slips off due to the radius on the coil's side. I already got the tools for holding the double D spacer (two tools that fit four different double D's) so I can torque the clutches with these and don't have to be a octopus when I do them or find someone to help.

[Gerry]

Thanks all, KE4AVB its looks to be 1" but havent measured it, this thing is a savage, I rebuilt the carb it starts on the first pull.

Found this link, dunno if its any help but posting it:

https://www.sensenigsrepair.com/troy-bilt-parts-manuals

[KE4AVB]

Found crankshaft spec for the Kohler M8-301608 that is listed for the tiller SN here and it is a 3/4 PTO so I am dead in the water on the engine swap out; unless, Partstree comes through with another PN.

[Arkie]

Thanks all, KE4AVB its looks to be 1" but havent measured it, this thing is a savage, I rebuilt the carb it starts on the first pull.

Found this link, dunno if its any help but posting it:

https://www.sensenigsrepair.com/troy-bilt-parts-manuals

Very good Troy built Horse tiller info link.
This info or link needs to be over in your downloads and manuals links if not already,

Thanks for the link

[KE4AVB]

Jack's has a better coverage of the TB Legacy IPLs.

https://www.jackssmallengines.com/jacks-parts-lookup/manufacturer/troy-bilt/legacy