MTD Brake Pads

[KE4AVB]

Okay awhile back someone here was asking about if they could just the brake pads for the MTD decks. Well today I ran across the PNs.

761-04017


761-05007 [maybe NLA @ some distributors as it is a Cub Cadet PN] just check around.

Anyway the prices are between $7-$12 each for the ones I found. Of course you would need supply the rivets.

There is also a 761-05017 pad but I am unable to find any images of it or the brake arm it is on.

[hanz63]

Nice. Thanks for the research.

[KE4AVB]

It was kinda sheer luck combined with price checking. I have a TB in the shop with broken deck brake pad. For some MTD allowed the pad to be noted separately yesterday. From I Google the that part number and Amazon came with it and showed the older pad PN. From there I just scanned my price file for any other SKUs with the same description of "PAD-DECK BRAKE" which turned the third number.

Considering the price of the brake assy I was considering buying some brake material stock from McMasters and make my own. One block of the material was about the cost one $70 brake assy. Drilling the holes had been a bit of challenge; unless, I found milling bit of the correct size to make the stepped holes.

BTW the brake assy PN 983-05182A is listed here at $72.46 vs the pad at 9.75 list. Of course you need two steel rivets per pad but those I can buy in bulk just figure the range for the 3/16 rivets. I will be ordering 18/8 Stainless steel due the higher sheer strength.

[KE4AVB]

I think I have figured out what the 761-05017 pads are for. If I am right they are the old spindle brake on decks that had to be raised fully to disengage blades then make contact frame mounted brakes.

Anyway I have ordered all three PNs. The 761-05007 [11ea] are inbound from Jack's and the 761-04017 [12 ea] and 761-05017 [2] are on back order through RBI. The first two PNs I do know where they are used.

[38racing]

I think I have figured out what the 761-05017 pads are for. If I am right they are the old spindle brake on decks that had to be raised fully to disengage blades then make contact frame mounted brakes.

Anyway I have ordered all three PNs. The 761-05007 [11ea] are inbound from Jack's and the 761-04017 [12 ea] and 761-05017 [2] are on back order through RBI. The first two PNs I do know where they are used.

I think this is the frame one
https://www.bantasaw.com/catalog/viewpr ... 100&p=2993

[KE4AVB]

Yes those are the ones that I don't know if the 761-05017 pads are for them or not. But at those are just fairly low cost assemblies from Stens. The Stens part number is 240-452 and they are around 16.38 USD list when compared to MTD list of 23.47 USD. So they are not so pricey as the other two spindle brake assemblies which are between 60-75 USD list. It is the more expensive ones that can be repaired at a reasonable cost with a pad and a couple strong rivets.

The rivets are not cheap at 1.378 USD each but is still half the cost of the ones MTD [PN 728-0175] sells at 2.62 USD. They are an odd size as the mounting hole are .200 - .205 inch in diameter as where the standard 3/16 inch rivets are 0.192" - 0.196". Plus they are 316 stainless steel with slightly higher sheer strength [50 lbs stronger]. It is there clamp range that has me a little off as it pushing the max range of .59 inch as the used one here is right at .50 inch when I ground off the end to get it out.

BTW the 3/16 97550A730 316 stainless steel from McMaster have a 0.128 mandrel instead of the 0.114 one indicated in the drawings. so double check your riveter 3/16 nose piece for the correct hole size. I am now having to hunt a riveter that I can get a extra nose piece for.

[KE4AVB]

Okay the 761-04017 use a M5-20 93/16 316 stainless steel rivet. This is because the rivet diameter needs to be .200" with a range of 0.434"-0.59". Here I use McMaster 9755A730 rivet.

The 761-05007 uses a 5/32 3-18 stainless steel rivet. Depending the needed clamp range needed either McMaster 5/32 Rivet - 18-2 Stainless - 0.251" - 0.375" (97525A470) or 5/32 Rivet - 18-8 Stainless - 0.376" - 0.5" (97525A473).

Note 11/28/2021-1: just did my first 761-05007 pad replacement and found that MTD just used plain aluminum rivets; unlike, the 761-04017 that they use steel rivets on.The 97525A473 rivets worked fine as they tighten up nicely.

Also found that the 761-5017 is a version of the 761-5007 pads so it is not used for those MTD deck brakes that are frame mounted. Still awaiting the pads to what the difference is between the 05007 and 05017 pads. Looking to be after Christmas before I get them.

Shipping has slipped into 2022, Looking like I going have to make my own 761-04017 pads. At least I have a source for the brake material and mill end bit.

[KE4AVB]

Finally got in the 761-04017 pads. Boy what lousy quality. Definitely not worth paying 90.60 for 12 of them. Every one of them was damage except one.

I got my distributor working on the quality issue as of 12/14/21.

[KE4AVB]

Also here is an image showing the difference between the 761-05017 and the 761-05007 pads. Basically 761-05017 is just a modified 761-05007 pad.