Briggs short block numbers

[creia]

I am looking for a new short block for a Briggs Model 130202, horizontal-shaft, 5HP engine.
I found one that I may make an offer on. The seller states the Briggs short block number is 299250 and has been superseded to 491145. He does not know what Briggs engine this is for. It "looks" like it "could" be for a 5HP. Can someone help?
Thank you,
Michael

[KE4AVB]

What type number are you working on?

491145 is only listed for the 130202-0868-99. It is the correct supersede number for the 299250.

Now Briggs does list the same replacement engine for most of 130202s which is 126332-1036-B8 which supersedes to 130G32-0022-F1.

[creia]

Thank you KE4AVB,
No specific "Type" just yet. I want to have it in inventory (If I can get it cheap enough) for future rebuilds of Briggs 5 HP engines that I will do. All of my 5 HP builds are Model 130202, with manufacture year range of around 1966- 1975. For example, one of the engines I have in stock is 130202-0135-01. Does that help?
Michael

[KE4AVB]

This is what Briggs has on the Dealer's Power Portal. for the 130202-00135-99 (01)

Information
Model Number 130202-0135-99
Replacement Engine
Replacement Engine: 126332-1036
Crankshaft: 797072 Used Before Code Date 13050600
PTO Shaft Diameter 0.75
PTO Shaft Length 2.438
Woodruff Keys - PTO Threads 0.312-24 UNF

Crankshaft: 593079 Used After Code Date 13050500
PTO Shaft Diameter 0.75
PTO Shaft Length 2.43
Woodruff Keys - PTO Threads 0.312-24 UNF

Replacement Shortblock: No Replacement Shortblock is available

[creia]

Thanks again KE4AVB!
"Replacement Shortblock: No Replacement Shortblock is available"
I am assuming that is due to the AGE of my engine, which is 1972? The short block (and packaging) I am considering purchasing looks OLD- most likely a NOS part. I bet Briggs stopped making them years (decades? ) ago? Just trying to figure out what "deal breakers" could be wrong with this short block that would prevent me from using it on one of the engines? Mainly, I would like to know if this shortblock is indeed for a 5HP, and not a 4HP which "look" identical on the exterior, while all internals are different...
Michael

[bgsengine]

I bet it would be a decent buy - Parts breakdown for type 0868-99 shows it used the starter clutch type starter so it'll likely have that extended flywheel shaft end, 492088 crankshaft, (which looks to be keyed and not tapered or external threaded for generators or pumps) and the optional panes show it may have been a Snowblower engine, so I'd bet a pretty useful shortblock for Creia's needs.

[bgsengine]

Thanks again KE4AVB!
"Replacement Shortblock: No Replacement Shortblock is available"
I am assuming that is due to the AGE of my engine, which is 1972? The short block (and packaging) I am considering purchasing looks OLD- most likely a NOS part. I bet Briggs stopped making them years (decades? ) ago? Just trying to figure out what "deal breakers" could be wrong with this short block that would prevent me from using it on one of the engines? Mainly, I would like to know if this shortblock is indeed for a 5HP, and not a 4HP which "look" identical on the exterior, while all internals are different...
Michael

a 5 HP would be 130202, I believe the 4 HP was in the 120000 ranges (12 CID vs 13 CID) - I based my prior post on lookup based on what the shortblock part number is shown as "used for" according to KE4's info, and took THAT model /type to the parts lookup....

[creia]

I bet it would be a decent buy - Parts breakdown for type 0868-99 shows it used the starter clutch type starter so it'll likely have that extended flywheel shaft end, 492088 crankshaft, (which looks to be keyed and not tapered or external threaded for generators or pumps) and the optional panes show it may have been a Snowblower engine, so I'd bet a pretty useful shortblock for Creia's needs.

Yes, based on the (few) photos for the shortblock, the crank is good for my use , on both ends
Michael

[creia]

Thanks again KE4AVB!
"Replacement Shortblock: No Replacement Shortblock is available"
I am assuming that is due to the AGE of my engine, which is 1972? The short block (and packaging) I am considering purchasing looks OLD- most likely a NOS part. I bet Briggs stopped making them years (decades? ) ago? Just trying to figure out what "deal breakers" could be wrong with this short block that would prevent me from using it on one of the engines? Mainly, I would like to know if this shortblock is indeed for a 5HP, and not a 4HP which "look" identical on the exterior, while all internals are different...
Michael

a 5 HP would be 130202, I believe the 4 HP was in the 120000 ranges (12 CID vs 13 CID) - I based my prior post on lookup based on what the shortblock part number is shown as "used for" according to KE4's info, and took THAT model /type to the parts lookup....

I have only rebuilt/restored 3 Briggs 4HP engines. Each one of them were Model # 100202 (10 CID) On the exterior, they look identical to a Briggs 5HP. On the interior, however, everything is different- bore, stroke, piston, rod, and crank. I just wish I knew for sure that this short block I am considering is indeed for a 5 HP, and not for a 4 HP...
Michael

[bgsengine]

Thanks again KE4AVB!
"Replacement Shortblock: No Replacement Shortblock is available"
I am assuming that is due to the AGE of my engine, which is 1972? The short block (and packaging) I am considering purchasing looks OLD- most likely a NOS part. I bet Briggs stopped making them years (decades? ) ago? Just trying to figure out what "deal breakers" could be wrong with this short block that would prevent me from using it on one of the engines? Mainly, I would like to know if this shortblock is indeed for a 5HP, and not a 4HP which "look" identical on the exterior, while all internals are different...
Michael

a 5 HP would be 130202, I believe the 4 HP was in the 120000 ranges (12 CID vs 13 CID) - I based my prior post on lookup based on what the shortblock part number is shown as "used for" according to KE4's info, and took THAT model /type to the parts lookup....

I have only rebuilt/restored 3 Briggs 4HP engines. Each one of them were Model # 100202 (10 CID) On the exterior, they look identical to a Briggs 5HP. On the interior, however, everything is different- bore, stroke, piston, rod, and crank. I just wish I knew for sure that this short block I am considering is indeed for a 5 HP, and not for a 4 HP...
Michael

What KE4 said should be the clue: 491145 is only listed for the 130202-0868-99. It is the correct supersede number for the 299250. Since it is the correct short block for a 130000 series, you should be golden.